. There's also penalties to holding too many titles. Lowering my demesne? wwesniper 10 years ago #1. Not to mention that holding the wrong holding type means you are responsible for uphgrading. I just built a city in my capitol county, and it says "Holder is of wrong holding type". . So should I just spread out my demesne across the entire realm, with few castles here and there, instead of controlling everything. And how I can change this. So playing as earl of dublin and I have 4 titles at the moment. makes sense. So all I can build are castles (and still own them)?? So I have to give yet another holding away? Build a city of your own and give it away. You lose 75% of the. . They are not the right type of holding. . Castles are generally most useful for Feudal rulers since they can be held as part of your domain directly. But now I see Wrong type of holding in demesne message. Fort level. Everything I fight for goes to someone else so people have said to build your own in your own counties. Holdings have the following characteristics, which are modified by buildings: Characteristic. Bedford has a castle and I'm still tribal. . Do I have to give mayorship of this town to one of my vassals? If I do that or don't what are the economic consequenses? I saved for a long time to build this town so I could bring in some more cash. i make some war to slavs heretic on north, now i have in my demesne this new holdings. Some time ago - I'm not even sure it was my current ruler - I married somebody off into Bedford. The best ways to do this is to either simply revoke the baron's title (which WILL give you an opinion hit from all your other vassals, but is often still the simpler of the solutions), or, assassinate the entire family holding the castle so that upon the last holder's death, it will revert to you. My demesne limit is only 3 and I'm not sure what to do at this point. Everything I fight for goes to someone else so people have said to build your own in your own counties. There are three types of holdings: Baronies: Focus on troops. Fast forward a generation and the. Wrong Type of Holding When I click on my capital, it no longer has the options to build anything and when i look at the intrigue panel again, it still says adopt feudalism but now I can't do it anymore because it says I need a. . #4. So all I can build are castles (and still own them)?? So I have to give yet another holding away? Build a city of your own and give it away. . Still super new to this game and I'm in need of some help. What does it mean, and how do I fix it?For example, my capital has 6 slots, all of them belong to different vassals and I don't even seem to have a claim on them (even though I'm the heir, if the current title holder dies and I get it, it will just say "wrong type of holding"). Bedford has a castle and I'm still tribal. I revoked it for myself and became a count worchester as I believe I am supposed to be. Still super new to this game and I'm in need of some help. And how I can change this. Thank you. Everything I fight for goes to someone else so people have said to build your own in your own counties. But you can put them under a vassal if you like. top of page. However a castle holding will never change into a city holding as you asked in your question. Not sure of exact percentages but you get a lot less levy and gold from them. Thank you. The problem is of course that this isn't the county capital. I build a fort, no problem, I then build a city and I get this message. Saves tons of time if you inherit lots of land through crusades/holy wars. For example, my capital has 6 slots, all of them belong to different vassals and I don't even seem to have a claim on them (even though I'm the heir, if the current title holder dies and I get it, it will just say "wrong type of holding"). #14. Wrong Type Of Holding In Demesne; Some of them are pretty easy to spot. makes sense. If you don't use Ironman for your current game, you can open the console by typing any of the following: On German/Nordic keyboards, this is ⇧Shift + 3 This may also be the combo of left shift and the §| key to the left of the number 1 on the number row. a temple holding, so I wasn't getting any advantages and should give it so a vassal. I have looked at the titles for that county (Perfeddwlad - Wales) and I have nothing for the Major of Dendigh which the title was originally. 3. I just built a city in my capitol county, and it says "Holder is of wrong holding type". Ck2 Wrong Type Of Holding In Demesne. Years later, my current king inherits the county and now I have the "Wrong type of Holding in Demesne" message. And how I can change this. " By Anyone-4-CS in forum Networking & Security Replies: 6. I'm currently the Petty King of Meath. I build a fort, no problem, I then build a city and I get this message. ? Long story short, I was ruling as the king of Ireland but my character had terrible traits and was hated by everyone and was eventually excommunicated, making everyone hate me more. Years later, my current king inherits the county and now I have the "Wrong type of Holding in Demesne" message. Just had a change of leaders, for some reason one of my demenses changed from the castle (barony) being the main title, to a city. It includes the vassal's demesne income, liege tax from their own vassals, and trade income. . I have this and I dont know how to fix it. I have looked at the titles for that county (Perfeddwlad - Wales) and I have nothing for the Major of Dendigh which the title was originally. Years later, my current king inherits the county and now I have the "Wrong type of Holding in Demesne" message. Fast forward a generation and the. For the counties I usually go to the intrigue tab to recruit a noble/soldier/holy men. give bonuses to entire realm, in CK2 they used to give bonus even if county was being held by vassal, I've found out by experiment that this is not the case in CK3, to get effects from special building you need to personally own not only the county, but the barony. So should I just spread out my demesne across the entire realm, with few castles here and there, instead of controlling everything. Everything I fight for goes to someone else so people have said to build your own in your own counties. ? Long story short, I was ruling as the king of Ireland but my character had terrible traits and was hated by everyone and was eventually excommunicated, making everyone hate me more. Some time ago - I'm not even sure it was my current ruler - I married somebody off into Bedford. Afterwards, I got the "wrong type of holding" warning, and each holding in the three provinces is labeled with a "recently conquered" modifier for wrong religion, wrong culture, etc. A large part of your income, especially in a small realm, comes from the personal holdings of your demesne . Side note, I'd like the ability to change a holding type in exchange of a large amount of money and the loss of intra holding "buildings". Thank you. I'm currently the Petty King of Meath. Barons are affected by feudal ta, mayors are. However a castle holding will never change into a city holding as you asked in your question. That means you are starting out with two titles, Petty King of Connachta, And Count of Connachta. Frustratingly, clicking on the notifier takes me to a "Realm" window which. . . One 6-holding. So should I just spread out my demesne across the entire realm, with few castles here and there, instead of controlling everything. To lift the excommunication I gifted the Pope a county (Connact) to raise his opinion of me. New posts All threads Latest threads New posts Trending threads. You will be a very powerful ruler, but you will also have a decreased vassal limit, which means that your realm will be rather small. Everything I fight for goes to someone else so people have said to build your own in your own counties. The biggest penalty, though, is that you're basically spending demesne points for worthless holdings. Still super new to this game and I'm in need of some help. Any help would be appreciated. Having 2 castles instead would help you a lot more, especially in terms of army size. ? Long story short, I was ruling as the king of Ireland but my character had terrible traits and was hated by everyone and was eventually excommunicated, making everyone hate me more. For the counties I usually go to the intrigue tab to recruit a noble/soldier/holy men. Wrong Type of Holding in Demesne issue. Now when I take a friend of mine from my court and attempt to grant him the county, he does not become a mayor. . Thank you. . Wrong Type Of Holding In Demesne Ck2. Bedford has a castle and I'm still tribal. Do I have to give mayorship of this town to one of my vassals? If I do that or don't what are the economic consequenses? I saved for a long time to build this town so I could bring in some more cash. Still super new to this game and I'm in need of some help. Left-click on the "Explore Character Opinions" button. Crusader Kings III > General Discussions > Topic Details. Still super new to this game and I'm in need of some help. Some time ago - I'm not even sure it was my current ruler - I married somebody off into Bedford. Years later, my current king inherits the county and now I have the "Wrong type of Holding in Demesne" message. . CK2 noob here. Do I have to give mayorship of this town to one of my vassals? If I do that or don't what are the economic consequenses? I saved for a long time to build this town so I could bring in some more cash. On macOS (US), ⌥Option + 6 enters. I build a fort, no problem, I then build a city and I get this message. A castle holding uses one of your holdings the same way a county capital does. Some time ago - I'm not even sure it was my current ruler - I married somebody off into Bedford. Everything I fight for goes to someone else so people have said to build your own in your own counties. Do I have to give mayorship of this town to one of my vassals? If I do that or don't what are the economic consequenses? I saved for a long time to build this town so I could bring in some more cash. 700+. Thank you. I build a fort, no problem, I then build a city and I get this message. To lift the excommunication I gifted the Pope a county (Connact) to raise his opinion of me. As Poland, I conquered the Pommeranian tribes to the north. So all I can build are castles (and still own them)?? So I have to give yet another holding away? Build a city of your own and give it away. One of the most common errors made by new players of Crusader Kings 2 is to spend too much time focusing on personal success and acquiring as many titles as. Years later, my current king inherits the county and now I. Fast forward a generation and the. This however triggered two consequences I do not understand. . I don't understand this. I don't understand this. Holy stays at just 25. It is also possible to see the opinion of an arbitrary character A toward another character B : Right-click on the portrait of character B. . Am I supposed to spend a bunch of money to upgrade the tribe into a castle? Do I have to build a castle from. Studying arcane knowledge lets mages tap into the forces of nature and elements and form them into powerful spells. And how I can change this. Years later, my current king inherits the county and now I have the "Wrong type of Holding in Demesne" message. Feb 21, 2012. (Added 1. I revoked a the title of mayor of a main city of a holding from a vassal. Some time ago - I'm not even sure it was my current ruler - I married somebody off into Bedford. To create the new vassal either nightclick a character and grant them the title, or click the Wrong Type of Holding Pop-Up and rightclick the Holding on the bottom left and press on Create New Vassal. Now I have a tribe as the capital, rather than a castle. de·mesne (dĭ-mān′, -mēn′) n. Years later, my current king inherits the county and now I have the "Wrong type of Holding in Demesne" message. I build a fort, no problem, I then build a city and I get this message. 0) If you are using the 'Way of Life' DLC you must either have Business Focus, or instead be of Vaishya caste. Bedford has a castle and I'm still tribal. I don't know how to give up my one holding in a conquered county so I can go. I hold Leicester as Earl. 4. . ? Long story short, I was ruling as the king of Ireland but my character had terrible traits and was hated by everyone and was eventually excommunicated, making everyone hate me more. Also, just to mention; if you conquer a province and acquire all its holdings you will automatically see a wrong holding in your demesne. 19 coastal. Everything I fight for goes to someone else so people have said to build your own in your own counties. Barons have baronies, mayors have cities, and bishops have bishoprics. Why is it bad to govern cities directly? I am guessing it is bad since I got the message warning me. But you can also see there is a castle in this county: Image 3. I am the emperor of Rajastan (currently in northern India) and I built a city and a temple. To lift the excommunication I gifted the Pope a county (Connact) to raise his opinion of me. What is the actual penalty for holding these?I have this and I dont know how to fix it. . Bishoprics: A middle ground between baronies and cities. So all I can build are castles (and still own them)?? So I have to give yet another holding away? Build a city of your own and give it away. de·mesne (dĭ-mān′, -mēn′) n. . makes sense. It isn't listed as one of my demesnes that I can assign to someone else. To lift the excommunication I gifted the Pope a county (Connact) to raise his opinion of me. I have de jure claims on Worchester, it was ruled by a prince-bishop since the capital of the county is temple. You’d want to abandon your holdings in Brittany since you’re at risk of a holy. I revoked it for myself and became a count worchester as I believe I am supposed to be. But I can't give it away. What exactly does this mean?I'm playing as the King of Romagna, so I had Rome as a De Jure Claim. There are five types of settlements, each with a different set of buildings. Barons are the titleholders for baronies, mayors for cities, and bishops for bishoprics. but there are other smaller holding images below. . types - castles, cities, temples or tribes. Still super new to this game and I'm in need of some help. And how I can change this. So should I just spread out my demesne across the entire realm, with few castles here and there, instead of controlling everything. No existing Merchant Republic can have trade posts in their demesne. Years later, my current king inherits the county and now I have the "Wrong type of Holding in Demesne" message. . . . What exactly does this mean?One 6-holding. . “Wrong type of Holding in demesne” I am really new to crusader king2 and just got it today I think I am playing as Romania or severin/timas I was…What penalties, if any, are there for a wrong holding type? E. Years later, my current king inherits the county and now I have the "Wrong type of Holding in Demesne" message. To lift the excommunication I gifted the Pope a county (Connact) to raise his opinion of me. This law will determin how your realm will be organized: tall or wide. Do I have to give mayorship of this town to one of my vassals? If I do that or don't what are the economic consequenses? I saved for a long time to build this town so I could bring in some more cash. I guess it's because the capital is temple and I should put some bishop to rule there, right?I have de jure claims on Worchester, it was ruled by a prince-bishop since the capital of the county is temple. I've got this notifier pop up - "Wrong type of holding in demesne". I conquered some tribal holdings in the North via holy war and, noticing the 'wrong type of holding' penalty, granted these to some of my middle sons and other relatives. im playing the king of poland in 1066. So all I can build are castles (and still own them)?? So I have to give yet another holding away? Build a city of your own and give it away. makes sense. . I'm currently the Petty King of Meath. My vassal guy Ragnvald from Ormund decided. Still super new to this game and I'm in need of some help. Wrong Type Of Holding In Demesne Star Wars Clone Medic Cara Mengembalikan Face Time Yang Tersembunyi Cabin Fever The Long Dark How To Make Money In Arma 3 Life. What is the actual penalty for holding these?I have de jure claims on Worchester, it was ruled by a prince-bishop since the capital of the county is temple. I have de jure claims on Worchester, it was ruled by a prince-bishop since the capital of the county is temple. It's nice to be able to revoke the titles penalty-free when you need more holdings in your domain. , I imprison/banish a mayor (as a king with one county), and take possession of his title. So should I just spread out my demesne across the entire realm, with few castles here and there, instead of controlling everything. This will only work for the subholdings, so for the main holding you're going to have to either give it away to someone else or create a tribal holding in one. 0) They must have at least 500 gold. Early game they're cheap but get pricey quick. I don't know why it's there. But I can't give it away. Rogues are the masters of stealthy combat and ranged weapons. I gave away the bishopric that I took over, but I still have it and it says that the Chiefdom of Gwynedd is the wrong holding type for me. To lift the excommunication I gifted the Pope a county (Connact) to raise his opinion of me. Crusader Kings II. . FAQ: Wrong Holding/Government Type. 700+. 5. 3. As such, your first goal should be level 2 in all holdings before you upgrade any further. . CryptoHello, I would like to know more about this game since i find it difficult than other strategies, some things i have learned in hard way and some i still can not. Bedford has a castle and I'm still tribal. The more the better. If you give it to a vasall you will get at least 45/50% or more percent of the base income. Your character is always a noble. Frustratingly, clicking on the notifier takes me to a "Realm" window which. I have this and I dont know how to fix it. Can you provide some of thém bishoprics to take them out of contention for attempts to take power and messing up your lands?. "Wrong type of holding" refers to you directly holding a city or bishopric. 6: Normandy. Each ruler (except nomads) has a demesne limit, and exceeding it causes a penalty to taxes and levies. Or Tribals don't have castles but Tribes instead. Bedford has a castle and I'm still tribal. They are not the right type of holding. I'm currently the Petty King of Meath. In a separate issue, I have towns/castles that I can't upgrade because it says I don't have Keeps II which I do have. All but 2 are coastal. To lift the excommunication I gifted the Pope a county (Connact) to raise his opinion of me. but you still get the Renown benefits without having to waste Demesne space on holding the Temple directly. Years later, my current king inherits the county and now I have the "Wrong type of Holding in Demesne" message. Wrong Type Of Holding In Demesne Star Wars Clone Medic Cara Mengembalikan Face Time Yang Tersembunyi Cabin Fever The Long Dark How To Make Money In Arma 3 Life. I had a county that was owned by a vassal and I got it off them but after that I got a warning that there was a 'wrong holding type' and I noticed that the city of the county was the capital not the castle. Ormond is a county without a castle, so when you conquer it you will be ruler of a city. 700+. The plot concluded and I won the county back, but I am now getting a message that says: Wrong type of holding in demesne. ? Long story short, I was ruling as the king of Ireland but my character had terrible traits and was hated by everyone and was eventually excommunicated, making everyone hate me more. I don't understand this. I have all of Ireland right now (I'm also King of Eire), and I took over Gwynedd from the Petty Kingdom of Gwynedd, but now I have the wrong holding type in my demesne for some reason. There are four systems of government feudalism, theocracy, republic and tribal. I build a fort, no problem, I then build a city and I get this message. Folks, another clueless newbie question: in my current game, I am getting more cash than I'm used to, so I've been improving cities in my demesne left and right. Left-click on the "Explore Character Opinions" button. . What is the actual penalty for holding these?I don't understand this. If the Khagan continues to hold onto too many counties, a minor clan can rise up in rebellion to force the Khagan to recognise it as a major clan. Crusader Kings 2 Taxes, Levy and Laws Taxes There are 3 types of holdings in CK2: Castles are owned by feudal lords Churches are owned by bishops Cities are owned by mayors You are a feudal lord so having a city or a church in your demesne is considered having a wrong type of holding and you get 25% penalty to the holding's. 25 coastal holdings/county. They pay the most taxes, and once upgraded give numerous levies, but have a lower fort level than castles and their levies consist more of the lighter soldier types than both castles and temples. They are not the right type of holding. My income in that province increased greatly. Last edited by Nea's Nose ; Mar 17, 2021 @ 8:18pm. ? Long story short, I was ruling as the king of Ireland but my character had terrible traits and was hated by everyone and was eventually excommunicated, making everyone hate me more. Fast forward a generation and the. They are not the right type of holding. makes sense. Settlements [edit | edit source]. I am the emperor of Rajastan (currently in northern India) and I built a city and a temple. What does it mean, and how do I fix it?And how I can change this. You can check that by clicking the shield to the to left of the bishopric in the province screen. I don't understand this. Im a duke now and to make a merchant republic I have heard I need to be a king, im assuming the negative opinion modifier for wrong holding type will disappear then so putting that aside Id like to know how to make a bishop the head of a province. . 3/1/2023 0 Comments The Earth Hillfort in this holding is already Level I so will “only” take three more upgrades to become a Stone Hillfort, which is what you need to go feudal. . . just right click the little thumbnail of each holding in the county and hit "create vassal". 2. I revoked it for myself and became a count worchester as I believe I am supposed to be. Alternatively, if that county level title is held by a mayor, I think he. Thank you. 3 coastal holdings/county. Some time ago - I'm not even sure it was my current ruler - I married somebody off into Bedford. It isn't listed as one of my demesnes that I can assign to someone else. On Windows, Alt + NumPad 2 + NumPad 1 enters a §. indefinitely. Dec 30, 2020 — Category: Ck2 tribal vs feudal. You get a massive tax penalty but you still make some money and get a bigger levy. A city holding. Anyways, I'm playing my first game as the Ua Briain dynasty in Ireland. What is the actual penalty for holding these?I have de jure claims on Worchester, it was ruled by a prince-bishop since the capital of the county is temple. I'd love any advice or explanation you have. Also, as you are just starting out odds are you are a Petty King, which is the same as a Duke, rather then an actual King. 700+. This limit is what forces rulers to distribute power to vassals rather than directly controlling their entire realm. Early game they're cheap but get pricey quick. . What does it mean, and how do I fix it?For example, my capital has 6 slots, all of them belong to different vassals and I don't even seem to have a claim on them (even though I'm the heir, if the current title holder dies and I get it, it will just say "wrong type of holding"). When I start having lots of money I build cities in every demesne county slot and help them get going with markets and ports. . makes sense. Some time ago - I'm not even sure it was my current ruler - I married somebody off into Bedford. Any help would be appreciated. I build a fort, no problem, I then build a city and I get this message. . These holdings provide both income and taxes, and every holding is held by a character. I am listed as the holder of the city of Newark, so I keep getting the "wrong type of holding" alert. And how I can change this. 18. Fast forward a generation and the. Characters get a 75% penalty to income and levies in demesne settlements that do not match their government type. There will also be the option to tweak auto-save to perform at different intervals. To lift the excommunication I gifted the Pope a county (Connact) to raise his opinion of me. Thank you. Do I have to give mayorship of this town to one of my vassals? If I do that or don't what are the economic consequenses? I saved for a long time to build this town so I could bring in some more cash. By My Name in forum Video Games Replies: 6 Last Post: 07-02-2012, 06:52 PM "DHCP WARNING - Non-critical field invalid in response. . No 6-holding. Feudals aren't generally allowed to hold cities or temples without penalty. For example, my capital has 6 slots, all of them belong to different vassals and I don't even seem to have a claim on them (even though I'm the heir, if the current title holder dies and I get it, it will just say "wrong type of holding"). Cities are holdings commonly held by republic rulers. What is the actual penalty for holding these?Each ruler (except nomads) has a demesne limit, and exceeding it causes a penalty to taxes and levies. Bedford has a castle and I'm still tribal. I don't understand this. makes sense. They are not the right type of holding. Still super new to this game and I'm in need of some help. Sounds like you're tribal and the holding is feudal. So all I can build are castles (and still own them)?? So I have to give yet another holding away? Build a city of your own and give it away. I am listed as the holder of the city of Newark, so I keep getting the "wrong type of holding" alert. So all I can build are castles (and still own them)?? So I have to give yet another holding away? Build a city of your own and give it away. Bishoprics: A middle ground between baronies and cities. If you give it to a vasall you will get at least 45/50% or more percent of the base income. Did all the tutorials and read some of the manual but not all. 2 - 250 years. So should I just spread out my demesne across the entire realm, with few castles here and there, instead of controlling everything. As you can see, level 2 pays of faster than level 1, but more slowly than level 3. Now I hold 2 counties but one has a capital that is a bishopric. 3 coastal holdings/county. Because whenever I assign a landed title I see. Every county has at least one holding, and most have three. A demesne is a character's collection of personal. 9/8/2023. And how I can change this. . 23 total. I have always looked at counties in CK2 with lots of empty slots as "nice", but I rather have a 4-holding county where all the holdings have been created and some of its buildings have been upgraded to a 7-holding county full of empty slots. . To lift the excommunication I gifted the Pope a county (Connact) to raise his opinion of me. I revoked it for myself and became a count worchester as I believe I am supposed to be. Cities: Focus on tax. Generally speaking, castles are best. If I select a vassal. I now get the warning/message "Wrong type of holding in Demesne"; what does that do? It doesn't say what penalties there are. I'm currently the Petty King of Meath. Years later, my current king inherits the county and now I have the "Wrong type of Holding in Demesne" message. Thank you. What exactly does this mean?Select the "Opinion" map mode (shortcut: D) Click a province in one ruler's demesne. They are not the right type of holding. In general when you get the "Wrong Type of Holding" notification you should try and. Everything I fight for goes to someone else so people have said to build your own in your own counties. 700+. Empty holding slots in demesne provinces serve as grazing grounds for the nomadic population and armies. I'm currently the Petty King of Meath. Still super new to this game and I'm in need of some help. Thank you. In a separate issue, I have towns/castles that I can't upgrade because it says I don't have Keeps II which I do have. . It isn't listed as one of my demesnes that I can assign to someone else. Once I did that, I got a pop up saying I got a wrong type of holding in demesne (for. To create the new vassal either nightclick a character and grant them the title, or click the Wrong Type of Holding Pop-Up and rightclick the Holding on the bottom left and press. And how I can change this. But you can also see there is a castle in this county: Image 3. Some time ago - I'm not even sure it was my current ruler - I married somebody off into Bedford. The plot concluded and I won the county back, but I am now getting a message that says: Wrong type of holding in demesne. I'm currently the Petty King of Meath. I don't understand this.